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do they portend for the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> it strengthens the president's hand. it was a good number, not great, because of some of the revisions we saw to previous months but the president can tout a record of job creation, so that's encouraging. the unemployment rate went down to 7.7% for some of the wrong reasons. a lot of people left the labor force. that's not something you want to see. you want to see more people coming into the labor force, encouraged that they have a chance at getting a job. nonetheless, 146,000 jobs created. that's good for the president. gives him a chance to go out there and have some momentum going into the fiscal cliff talks. i was just at the speaker's press conference down the hall at the top of last hour and he said look, there's no progress being made and his call with the president was just more of the same and the staff talks behind the scenes yesterday were more of the same. he didn't give us a whole lot of optimism going into this weekend here, alex. >> here's my question. i have many questions, but when we get these numbers
negotiations. they look at the role of lobyists in those fiscal cliff negotiations. and an update on the situation in syria. washington journal live at 7:00 a.m. on c-span. >> by a majority of 6 to 3 and they are going to say that is precedent. and indiana had a -- >> they decided on the indiana case it was constitutional for them to establish i.d. they did not say that all of those states who have subsequently done that -- >> let me finish because you misrepresent what i said. >> hold on. >> that's the law of the land. >> when i hear these accusations that black people, voter i.d. laws disproportionately affect minorities, it implies to me we have something missing in our brain. to me if white can get i.d.'s to vote and follow the processes to follow the laws, what are you telling black people? that they are not good enough, that they are lesser than and that bothers me from democrats on the left that we always have to make special -- there has to be a specialness when we deal with minorities because they are too feebleminded. we need to make concessions for them because they can
of the fiscal cliff negotiations. blink and you just might miss exactly nothing. while talks between speaker boehner and president obama over the past three days have been shrouded in secrecy, we've learned there have been two offers put on the table. the white house sent boehner a proposal on monday calling for $1.4 trillion in tax revenue, $200 billion less than the original offer. might that seal the deal? >> the president's called for $1.4 trillion worth of revenue. that cannot pass the house or the senate. >> okay then. the speaker's office responded with a deal of its own. yesterday it included precisely the same amount of revenue from the original proposal, $800 billion, which indicates there may have been concessions else where. a democratic source close to the white house tells nbc news the proposal included a permanent extension of the bush tax cuts. that is highly unlikely to fly, given the hard line the president has taken on tax rates and what he told barbara walters in an interview airing this friday on "20/20." >> taxes are going to go up one way or another and the key is to m
that possibly as part of the fiscal cliff negotiations. caller: right. it will cost them in the long run. host: because the money is coming out of social security. politicians say that will not happen. they say social security will have its money. caller: they tell you all kinds of things. host: john in atlanta, democratic caller. caller: how are you? it seems like it is open phones. i think as far as the fiscal cliff is concerned, the democrats and republicans need to come together and they need to do that rather quickly, because that's the way i feel about it. host: do you think it decides it should just agree to pass the tax cuts -- extend the tax cuts for middle-class americans and then wait until later to resume the debate over spending and tax cuts for wealthy americans? caller: they should start with that. and if they agree on that, then they can go on to the next thing. but this lagging and dragging along on both sides makes no sense. host: here is the washington post this morning. [video clip] >> i don't think the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now t
. tomorrow, on washington journal, guests discussed the latest on the so-called fiscal cliff negotiations and the week ahead. a politico reporter looks at the lobbyist involvement in those negotiations. and an update on the situation in syria. live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c- span. >> the supreme court will look at what was passed in 2008 by a majority of 63, i believe and they are going to say that is president. and indiana -- >> we are talking about facts. when they decided the indiana case, it was constitutional for them to establish it. they did not say all the states -- >> correct. they talked about indiana. let me finish peeping >> you are misrepresenting. >> no, i am not. >> i hear these accusations that black people, a voter i.d. lost disproportionately affect minorities. it implies to me that we have something missing in our brains. to me, if white americans can get it to vote and go through all the processes to follow the laws, what are you telling black people? that somehow they are not able to? they are lesser the man? that is what bothers me about the rhetoric coming from demo
talked about where things stand in the fiscal cliff negotiations and responded to house speaker boehner's criticism of president obama on the issue. we'll show you as much of this as we can until the house gavels back in at 5:00 eastern. >> good afternoon. welcome to the white house. thanks for being here. i have no announcements to make at the top so i will go straight to your questionless. mr. henry's disappointed that i have not a single announcement. jim. >> thanks, jay. the speaker, as you know, spoke today and turned the conversation over to the spending cuts and the fiscal cliff negotiations. two questions on that. one is, does that suggest that there is movement, so we're no longer talking about tax cuts or tax increases? and where is the administration, i know you guys have argued back that they have provided details on spending cuts, but are you prepared to offer more? today you have a letter from c.b.o.'s urging that spending cuts, entitlement adjustments and so forth be a multiple, a greater multiple than revenues. is the white house prepared to do more on that front? >> let
making remarks on the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations. jim, not giving us a ton to chew on there other than talking about a sea of red i think as far as the eye can see and the lack of seriousness. >> sharp ability to cut to the real matter. i think people are scratching their head at why we just had to watch that. >> you never know. there has been silence, right? there has been silence for the last two days, so perhaps, as david corn suggested to me earlier in makeup, this is boehner's bid to get some air time. >> yes. >> i think the story is pretty simple. the republicans are going to keep saying that every single day, and the president is going to keep saying raise taxes every single day until behind the scenes the two of them get a deal. i am still an optimist that they will get a deal. i think it's manifestly in both of their self interests. i don't think the president's hand is as strong as he thinks it is, and i think boehner has much more incentive than he leads on to figure out a way to get a deal to avert this. neither of these men want to go in to next year wi
in the debt ceiling debate or the fiscal cliff negotiations that neither side will give and they're both being unreasonable. and really not drilling down. the other thing they do is they really go back to newt gingrich and grover norquist. as you've talked about both these things, changing the culture of washington and making compromise impossible. >> here's something really naughty, i think in terms of policy. who can forget back in august not a million years ago when the romney pollster neil newhow said the following. we're not going to let our campaign be kick a at a timed by fact checkers. think about that. fact checkers meaning facts. >> right. >> i was on the show with you the other night. we talked about the quotes of the year. 47%. >> that's a good one. >> i thought this should be the top two of three. that showed their view towards reality. it was an arrogance that we can say whatever we want to say. and i think in years past, this is what's changed. campaigns would not be so brazen. if caught in a lie they maybe feel some shame. here's neil newhouse telling reporters that we don't ca
. >> as these fiscal cliff negotiations and debate continues, i think it's important to remember that washington doesn't have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem. and under this administration, under president obama, we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate, and yet he keeps demanding that we raise taxes to pay for more spending. this will only hurt our economy. ernst and young has done an analysis of the president's proposal and said it will cost several hundreds thousands of jobs. there is a better way and the speaker has laid it out. it is an approach that calls for tax reform by reforming the tax code and passing responsible spending cuts in order to get our fiscal house in order. that's what america wants. this is our opportunity to do the big things. this is our moment to provide that leadership that america desperately wants and we stand here ready to take the action necessary. >> the american people are hurting right now and now is the moment where we need to step up to the plate and solve the problem. i don't know how any of us can look our kids and grandkids in the
when the president calls for all the new taxes in the fiscal cliff negotiation, mr. president we already have a big tax increase that will hit on january 2nd. that of course is the obamacare taxes. you mentioned one of them, the tax on medical devices and medical equipment, bill, which i agree with, congressman price. that will reduce innovation and will reduce the kind of invention and new products we need to keep people healthier. in addition to that, bill, don't forget there is something called 3.8% investment tax surcharge in the obamacare bill that starts in january. one of the things that the president says is a little misleading i will only raise tax rates back where they were in the clinton era. you heard him say that a lot of times, bill. he is not including that 3.8% investment tax that will raise the taxes higher than they were in the '90s. bill: i see. seeing it right here. if you make more than $200,000. >> that's right. bill: if you're in a household of 250 or above, subject to a new 3.8% tax. well, you know, ultimately republicans argue this is coming down on the b
on the fiscal cliff negotiations because it becomes even more binding one would assume in terms of good or bad for the market, for the economy. >> kernen had a good point. does strength mean the economy could handle a cliff or is it so good you wouldn't want to tamper -- >> if i wanted to create a recession, what would i do? i would raise everybody's rates. i would cut the unemployment benefit. just trying to think of a theory of how i could cause a recession. i would cut back government spending quickly. >> i would raise interest rates to 20%. >> bernanke ought to join the -- look, i think this is what's going to happen. i think it's 50-50 we get a deal. no vacation. no legislation, no vacation. i think that when people get their paycheck at the end of january, they are going to be shocked at how much lower it is. i know these guys in washington, their paycheck isn't affected. i think when you get your paycheck, you're going to say i hate that. it is going to be that big. it's going to be very -- the takeout is going to be big. amt at the end of the year, you'll write a check when you're supp
the process work and i think i said it before. the timeline of the holidays and fiscal cliff looming and negotiations will come to a point where there has to be a best point. >> the jet fumes of national airport is the joke, but how big is that christmas holiday, if that is threatened, will that motivate more people to vote for something? >> if you want to see how this vote will come down. look at the first bailout or t.a.r.p. bill. >> one vote up and one vote down. i don't think anybody will get there. if you look at the people who maybe voted no the first time and then voted yes, that's probably the -- the vote that boehner has to get to and say, i need you on this one. people like me -- >> were you no both times? >> i was no both times. >> where were you? >> i was yes both times. >> members of the same party. thanks for coming in. good luck and stay in touch. thank you very much. >>> up next, senator mccain's bid for more influence on capitol hill. >>> plus, developing news on whether syria's leader will resort to chemical weapons. >>> after california, which state had the most in
in these fiscal cliff negotiations. different than a year and a half ago when the president dealt only with republicans in congress. this time he is taking the case to americans and getting outside of washington, d.c. congressional republicans not so happy that the president is doing this. >> we understand that. paul steinhauser live in washington, thank you. >>> let's talk more about the fiscal cliff. we have the washington correspondent for the new yorker and cnn contributor ryan lizza with us. john boehner and the president in a room, just the two of them. good idea? >> i think it is a good idea. >> if you look at the accounts of the negotiations of 2011 when you had boehner, mcconnell, nancy pelosi all in one ba bainer and the president who were on the phone meeting privately. they could go fwook their constituents and boehner could go to eric cantor and see what kind of deal they could get. but that was the dynamic that came the closest. >> they didn't have control of their parties basically right? does john boehner have more control? >> they think obama can get anything through t
to negotiate and create another fiscal cliff down the road. i hope we will not do that. i still think there is time before the end of the year to make that happen, but again, if it does not happen, unfortunately what that does is throw us into another debt ceiling situation, which is just not good for our country. we would be so much better off starting off on january 1 with this in the rearview mirror. our economy would take off and our country would be so much better off. >> chris, you understand the politics of the house from both sides. can john boehner cut a deal without eric cantor and paul ryan? >> i have a pretty good understanding of the house, but i always am a little afraid of wandering into house republican leadership politics. just to broaden the question a little bit -- i think the question is whether or not the speaker is going to be able to bring a good part of his caucus with him. that or require a united leadership team. >> i am talking short-term -- the next two or three weeks. >> i think that is going to be a requirement. i think one of the decisions the speaker wi
"/abc poll of handling of fiscal cliff negotiations, obama, 47% approve, 46% disapprove. boehner, 24% approve. 54% disapprove. i would say, the republican party continues to have a branding problem. >> there is. >> or a disintegrating problem in washington. >> it is a branding problem that was born of chaos in the primary process that continues. there is a great "politico" article that actually talks about the republican problem with branding. and talks about -- >> it's a great piece. >> have you seen this? >> yeah. >> the republican party has a branding problem. these are researchers that say -- we asked 22, 23 different topics, whether americans related more to the democratic party or the republican party. 22 of the 23, they appeal more to democrats. >> yeah. >> it is a generalized, massive branding problem over what's happened nationally over the past year. >> except in the south. >> the piece, in part, points out that unlike people who sit around here, most people, normal people out there in america react emotionally to politics when they hear phrases, they react emotionally. does this re
" on this wednesday, december 12, 2012. negotiations continue over the so-called looming fiscal cliff. yesterday president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. washington post reported however that they are still working on a deal and nothing is locked down yet. we will talk more about the fiscal cliff this morning on "the washington journal." what tax deductions would you give up as part of a solution to the deficit problems? here are the numbers to call. for republicans, 202-585-3881. for democrats, 202-585-3880. for independents, 202-585-3882. you can also find us online. send us a tweet, twitter.com/c- spanwj. find a son facebook and weigh in there. at journal@c- span.org. "the christian science monitor," asked what we would be willing to give up. "americans would be willing to give up the tax deduction for charitable giving over other popular tax breaks." host: let's take a look at the results of this poll. 25% said that they would be willing to give up the charitable giving tax deduction. almost the same amount said it would be willing to give up their deduction for state taxes. 19% said
the house republican conference spoke about the debt and deficit and the late etc. fiscal cliff negotiations. house speaker john boehner and the white house traded a second round of proposals yesterday on the budget cus that begin to take effect in january of 2013. this is nearly half an hour. >> good morning, everyone. i'm really proud to stand here today with the house republicans and my colleagues to tell a very important story and it's a story of hard working americans and their families. and let me tell you there's no story that is more powerful. the story of all americans, it's the story of moms an dads, husbands and wives, grandparents that work hard and sacrifice, so that they can leave a better america to their children and their grandchildren. and as the debate is looming over the fiscal cliff, we stand here to fight for those hard working americans and their families. because as the federal government grows larger and larger, the middle class is squeezed more and more. and as i -- i'm a mom. i have two kids. when my daughter was born two years ago, her share of the national debt w
collins of maine tells sawyer that when it comes to the current on-going fiscal cliff negotiations, it would be better if the women were running the show. >> i think if we were in charge of the senate and of the administration, that we would have a budget deal by now. >> go, girl power! now that we're coming up at the end of the year, we're getting a chance to take a look at what set records and who should have set the record straight. first of all twitter has revealed the most retweeted tweet of the year. and it is this photo. if we could -- there you go. from the obama campaign. it popped up election night with the caption four more years. within hours, it not only became the top retweet of the year but the top retweet ever. people in more than 200 countries around the world shared the photo of the president hugging the first lady. and politifact.com says that the romney campaign has the dishonor of having the lie of the year! that would be president obama sold chrysler to italy which would then move u.s. jeep pr
looking for work. earlier today on capitol hill john boehner commented on the fiscal cliff negotiations with reporters. >> this isn't a progress report because there is no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wastde another week. secretary gitener came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on and had more stimulus spending thanned the in cuts. and an indefinite increase in the debt limit like for ever. now four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there has been no count offer from the white house. instead reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate stradgeji to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. w
to be a lot of fiscal cliff negotiations privately going on throughout the day. or else maybe he's going back to ohio. who knows. jay carney will have a briefing at 1:00 and i will be there and i will tell you all about it tomorrow. oh my goodness! oh my gosh this looks amazing! [ male announcer ] our new maine stays! 15 entrees under $15 seafood, chicken and more! oo! the tilapia with roasted vegetables! i'm actually looking at the wood grilled chicken with portobello wine sauce. that pork chop was great! no more fast food friday's! we're going to go to red lobster. yep. [ male announcer ] come try our new menu and sea food differently! and introducing 7 lunch choices for just $7.99. salad, sandwiches, and more. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> bill: hello friends and neighbors, fellow americans good morning and welcome to the "full court press." here on current tv. it is tuesday morning. december 11. i'm bill press. liberal and proud of it. proud to bring you the only progressive morning show anywhere on cable television. called the "full cour
tonight, we'll update negotiations aimed at avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> ifill: then, we look at michigan's debate over right-to- work laws which would prevent labor unions from requiring membership. >> woodruff: paul solman explores the tax deductions that could be on the chopping block in the quest to bring down the deficit. >> we estimate $1.1 trillion a year in revenue the government gives up because of all the tax breaks. that's enough to solve the revenue problem but it's not going to happen. >> ifill: ray suarez has a newsmaker interview with secretary of homeland security janet napolitano. >> you can discuss border security and immigration reform simultaneously now. we don't have to this kind of first this and then that. at this point they actually go together. >> woodruff: special correspondent rick karr reports on the polluted waters that spilled into new york homes and businesses in superstorm sandy, raising health concerns. >> everybody sort of got sick at the same time. all of us sort of attributed it to, well, we're all stressed out. it's very cold. but that said, there is a
. >> good morning. on today's network tv talk shows, the topics include the so-called fiscal cliff and the negotiations between the white house and congress and the situation in the middle east. you could hear all the shows on cspan radio beginning at noon eastern. first is meet the press with senator dick durbin and kevin mccarthy. at 1:00 p.m., pierre abc's of this week with republican senator tom coburn and democratic senator debbie stabenow. the chair like to the house financial services committee, jeb hensarling and congressional progress of caucus co-chair. at 2:00 p.m. is fox news sunday with chris wallace and chuck schumer. and republican senator bob corker. also on the program is the israeli a bastard to the united states. cnn's state of the union follows and welcomes the managing director of the international monetary fund, christine lagarde. at 4:00 p.m., here "face the nation"where they talked with alan simpson and erskine bowles. also on the program, an interview with cory booker. the sunday network tv shows are repairing here on c-span at noon -- here on cspan radio.
here, forget fiscal cliff, forget negotiations. you just look economically, raise taxes, you don't get all the money you think you are going to bring in. >> brian: real quick, kevin mccarthy, one of the young guns, was on "metropolitan the press" and said, good news. revenues are up 10%. that's because we seem to be turning around economically. here is the bad news, spending is up 16%. why? he's trying to explain to a very reluctant david gregory, why should we consider raising tax when is clearly the revenue is up, but the spending is up higher? >> the president wants to raise tax rates on people making more than 250,000. he thinks that will bring in $82 billion in one year. the experience of california and other countries is that you will not bring in $82 billion. you bring in less. >> brian: sadly, it's just about getting a trophy and saying i told you i would do it. >> that's the politics of it. >> brian: varney and company might want to pick this up at 9:20 eastern time. >> always take your advice. >> brian: i'll put it in writing. >> thank you. >> brian: three minutes before the
, after resuming negotiations with the speaker of the house on a fiscal cliff agreement. and egypt's islamist president deployed troops outside the presidential palace amid growing protests against a referendum on a new constitution. and online we kick off a week- long look at how the developing world is tackling cancer. hari sreenivasan is here again. >> sreenivasan: more people die from cancer in low- and middle- income countries than from tuberculosis, hiv/aids, and malaria combined, but the fight against the deadly class of diseases has just begun there. see the first in our five-part series on our health page. and today our social security sage, larry kotlikoff, offers advice for outliving your money. that's on the business desk. and in our science roundup, find the perfect gift for your budding chemists and biologists, including a toy made from an owl's lunch. all that and more is on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. gwen? >> ifill: and that's the newshour for tonight. on tuesday, we'll look at the raging political turmoil in egypt. i'm gwen ifill. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woo
that the negotiations to avert the fiscal cliff are successful, in my view we should not wait for a grand bargain in order to finish work on this important tax extender legislation. tax extenders are different from the other fiscal cliff issues for three basic reasons, and let me describe those reasons. first tax extenders are much less contentious than the other end of year problems that we -- that need to be resolved. the tax extender bill on the senate calendar has strong bipartisan support. in august, the finance committee approved it by a large margin. we have support from six republicans, including the ranking member, senator hatch. all 13 democrats supported it. i believe that many more republicans will vote for this legislation if it's brought up for consideration here in the senate. the bill consists entirely of tax cuts. it should not be difficult to get senators to vote for tax cuts, right before christmas especially. most of these tax cuts have solid bipartisan support. many of these tax cuts will help the economy, will help the middle class. for example, the bill includes the deducti
. when it comes to the fiscal cliff, you have to go back to that quickly. are you going to be there on december 31st at 11:59 voting on a deal or will there be something beforehand? >> all of the commentators seem to think there is going to be a deal. i don't know. the republicans seem to be caving in or beginning to set the door to cave in on agreeing to some tax rate increases. but a deal that says what some people are talking about will increase the tax rates to not as much as they were under clinton. and return will put a limit on cost of living increases for social security, will increase the eligibility age for medicare. as the republicans are demanding is not an acceptable compromise as far as i'm concerned. you have a lot of democrats voting against any such agreement. >> eliot: you are raising the critical issue that has not gotten any substantial and necessary attention as it should which is what will the cost-cutting be. where will it come from? how will entitlements be affected if at all and wh
. >> this could be another negotiating chip in the fiscal cliff. harry reid's threat. it could be something to try to get more tax increases out of the republicans. megyn: interesting. this is a huge deal back in '06. you haven't heard as much about it now that the shoe is on the other foot. the democrats find themselves in the minority they play rue the day harry reid pushed this through. new questions how to tell if someone is too high to drive. now that marijuana is legal for recreational use in two states, authorities are trying to figure out what the legal limit should be for getting behind the wheel after you toke up. this is why. video of a crash that look the lives of four teenagers. prosecutors say the 17-year-old driver was high on marijuana when he got behind the wheel. it happened on long island in october. the driver took a curb at 110 miles an hour. crossed three lanes of traffic and skidded into trees, one of whicher to the car in half. he survived but his friend did not. the new marijuana law weren't into effect in the state. people can smoke for recreational purposes. that means a
phase of the fiscal negotiations. three weeks to go before the proverbial fiscal cliff. actually it's not proverbial. so-called, right? let's not hope this becomes proverbial. anyway, the president's photo-op of the day will be at a suburban detroit auto plant. >> if we're serious about protecting middle class families and we're going to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. the. >> the president is in detroit, daimler will announce a big $100 million investment to expand u.s. production in jobs. it's the real reason he was invited to michigan. with time running out for a deal before the holidays, the president and now speaker john boehner met at the white house, the first face-to-face meeting between the two in nearly a month. the first one-on-one meeting between the two. aides refused to characterize the meeting saying, quote, we're not reading out can details but the lines of communication remain open. but we'll do it for him. this is the real start of the negotiations, folks. if this week goes bad, we shouldn't
of the fiscal cliff looming larger as the clock ticks toward the deadline on january 1st. negotiators are trying to hammer out a deal over tax hikes and spending cuts searching for common ground. amid all the back and forth there are signing of a compromise. steve centanni is live in washington. are the two sides any closer together? >> reporter: there are two important signs today. speaker, house speaker john boehner met with president obama at the. we don't know how long they met or exactly what they talked about, but the white house says lines of communication are open and face-to-face meeting is on important. at the same time republicans say they will accept the demands for higher taxes on the wealthy if it goes along with spending cuts entitlements like medicare and social security. listen.... >> a lot of people are putting forth a theory. i think it has merit where you give the president 2% increase he is talking about on the top 2 percent. i am beginning to believe that is the best route for us to take. >> reporter: many other republicans, of course, standing firm against any tax increase
going is this. mr. obama has leverage now because he really doesn't care if you go over the fiscal cliff or curb or slope, or whatever you want to call it. but in february we will hit the debt ceiling. and if we break through the debt ceiling we will unleash an economic hell on this nation. and no president would allow that, right? so that is republican leverage, as they see it. unlike them, obama is not willing to destroy the global economy. and so they figure there is no real need to cut a deal now, because if that deal, particularly if they deal includes concessions like taxes, just wait a couple of months, take the debt ceiling hostage and make everybody believe you'll shoot. this is making boehner weaker. it gives haas republicans an excuse to ignore the cuts the deal he makes. they say oh, we'll just wait it out. the concern that boehner will cut a deal that he can't actually deliver, or at the last minute he'll back off a deal because he won't have the votes. the white house, by the way, they don't think the debt ceiling is republican leverage. when you talk to them, they are all
, president is doing neither. this is a game of chicken, which i think is designed to go over the fiscal cliff, and pin the blame on the republins, i understand why the president is doing it for political reasons but i don't think that the republicans have to surrender themselves in this game of chicken. lou: it seems the ultimatum, raise taxes on top 2%, why not let him eat to, it is his decision, go for it, if you don't want a mature, and intelligence, and responsible negotiation, you do not know who you are dealing with, it is called a constitutional bodyf government. >> it is john's right, this is politics, hard and fast, 1995 all over again, skes are high and and president wants house back, pin the blame on the republicans make them look like right wing lunatics and grab the chips, they aren a no-win position. lou: we'll be back, marianne has to weigh in and a bunch more as we continue with the a team stay with us. lou: we're back with the a-team, marianne, senator reid said he is dubious there would be a deal reached? >> now that everyone is talking about it everyone is more pessimistic.
up to the fiscal cliff. >> brian: at least they are talking to each other. they are talking about raising rates for medicare to scen . rates to 37 . difdepped and inheritance and capitol gains on tap to go up. that could be devastating. >> steve: especially the difid end tax up a gigantical. >> brian: and capitol gains up five points. >> gretchen: stay tuned for that. he risked his life to help americans nail bin laden and now fox news has learned he was torteured in a pakistani jail. family members of the doctor said they can't even visit him. he was captured by pakistani officials and sentenced to 33 years in prison. got most wanten in the world. >> brian: why is there not more outrage on that. >> steve: and now extreme weather. he survived a tornado only to have this happen. watch. >> oh, my god, oh, my god. ci'm okay. che was chatting with a tv reporter when the roof came crashing down and luckily it was all caught on camera. >> gretchen: in country illegally. the university of california at berklyy offered 200 scholarship. a private company do mated money. >> brian: an easy b
, the "national review" is reporting that if the fiscal cliff talks go sour, that john boehner might have a challenge for his speaker post. do you agree with that? >> i think speaker boehner is extremely strong in his position. he's been very, very smart, including the republican leadership, in his negotiations. while it's just him and president obama, he has them inside the room before he goes and meets with the president, he talks to them and they reflect the views of the entire conference. the key here with the entire deal is that the devil is in the details. once these details come out, it's going to take arm-twisting by both sides. it's going to take calls from the president and democrats. it's going to take the speaker to make sure republican conference members are falling into line and that's where we're going to see, when the rubber meets the road, if this deal can get done. remember, you know, health care reform by the president passed on december 24th. so we do have a president there just going right up to christmas. and if it doesn't happen at christmastime, they'll be coming b
cliff to show that neither he nor democrats in congress are acting in good faith in these negotiations. with just a few weeks ago before a potentially entirely avoidable blow to the economy, the president proposed a plan the members of his own party will even vote for. he is not interested in a balanced agreement, not particularly interested in avoiding the fiscal cliff, and clearly not interested at all in cutting any spending. with the president is really in, as we learned just yesterday, is getting as much taxpayer money as he can, first by raising taxes on small businesses who he believes are making too much money, and then on everybody else. not so he can lower the debt or the deficit, but so he can spend to his heart's content. for months, the president has been saying that all he wanted to raise taxes on the top 2% so he can tackle the debt and the deficit. however, yesterday, he finally revealed that that is not really is true intent. by demanding the power to raise the debt limit whenever he wants, by as much as he wants, he showed what he is really after is assuming unprecede
. >> so a lot of democrats are saying that no big deal if you go over the fiscal cliff. it seems like republicans are moving towards giving in on the tax rates. might even just vote on the tax portion of the negotiations and kick the rest into january to deal with. if you get a deal on the taxes that president obama seems like he would sign, what happens to the government on the second half of the cliff, the sequester and other extenders? you were at omb. can the government deal with that? can we be okay? >> there's a lot of ifs. republicans don't want to raise taxes on the middle class. they want to pass a bill to prevent increase on rates on the middle class. that would be a good thing. if we got past january 3rd and the sequester went into effect, there are a ways to move through money in accounts where you can buy a few weeks. that's an important thing to do. now don't get me wrong. there would still be a huge impa impact. i don't know what the markets would do. wall street is in a mind if we go past january 3rd, we will fall off the cliff. and secondly, there are people who rely
. >> all of you negotiators who are now negotiating on this so-called fiscal cliff and stuff. keep your hands off medicare and keep your hands off medicaid. >> stephanie: that's what i was just saying in the article on the hill. it warms the cockles of my liberal heart. >> you almost said cobbles. >> stephanie: i wonder if he says -- >> roger hedge corn. >> stephanie: senator jay rockefeller echoed the thoughts. >> we're not budging on medicare or medicaid. >> stephanie: hooray! here's other good news. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] dozens of republicans open to bucking the norquist pledge. for all of the talk of his ironclad grip on the g.o.p., a large and growing numbers say they have renounced his pledge. i love the stories and they talk about what would be acceptable to grover or not or -- who cares! who is this guy? >> i'll call. >> poopy head. >> stephanie: until a final deal emerged tough to predict his response. who cares! >> what power does he have? >> stephanie: there goes the norquist. senator mitc
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